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Hello All,

Please help explain the marking I found on this 450-400 EXPRESS 3-1/4" Double Rifle.

Based on the style, and the serial number, and the mfg date, I think this might be a low-grade Francotte and would like to know if anyone can confirm this.

Features:
Reinforced Frame
Bushed Firing Pins
Engraved
7 lbs 11oz (7 lbs 15 oz loaded)
14-3/4" LOP
Greener Cross Bolt w/ Rib Ext
non-automatic safety
26" Bbls
2-Leaf Express Site (100 / 200)


Markings on the barrels (see pics) = "ACIER MARTELE" - "958" - "1462" - ".450-400 EXPRESS 3-1/4" - "JAMIN" - "STAR / T" - "CROWN / JF" - "10.1" - "EL" - "B.BLINDEE"










Markings on the action between the firing pins (see pics) = "BE" ? ? monogram




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http://www.shotguns.se/html/belgium.html

Proofed in Belgium in 1928

Crown R designated Rifled Barrel

acier martelé is hammered or forged steel

B Blindee is OK to use with jacketed bullets

http://www.hallowellco.com/b-blindee.htm

Jamin is the barrel maker

Mike

possibly
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20b/a%20bernard%20gb.htm

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Hello skeettx,

Thanks for the reply.

Based on this, and other Forums, here is what I've found out so far. Does all this sound correct?

Any comments or corrections would be appreciated.

JAMIN = Marcel Jamin = Gun Maker
Crown/JF = Jean Falla = Barrel Maker
Acier Martele = Hammer Forged Steel
.450/400 EXPRESS 3-1/4" = Caliber
B.BLINDEE = Proofed with Jacketed Bullet
g = Date Code = 1928
Lion/P.V. = Nitro Proof Mark
*/T = Inspector Mark
*/P = Inspector Mark
10.1 = Bore dia.
958 = Assembly number
1462 = Serial number
Monogram = Unknown ? = perhaps retailer ?

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I would say Janin is the barrel finisher and Falla the tube maker
Perhaps and that would leave room for the monogram to be the gunmaker.

Mike

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Hello skeettx,

Thanks for the reply.

Unless the monogram is from the retailer who sold the rifle. ?

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Last edited by skeettx; 02/23/18 12:38 PM.

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Hello skeettx,

Thanks for the reply.

I've looked through all those pages on the internet. I found nothing.

I've now emailed him direct to ask for help.

Thanks

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Thanks to all that helped with information.

Based on the latest information from Axel E., he suggested Braeckers as being the possible maker;

Ets. Braeckers SA (=societe anonyme = plc), Rue du Crucifix 21 -39, Herstal. .... listed as "Fabricants des armes" = gunmaker.

I searched the internet and found this example. Although the pictures are not very clear, You can still make out the name "Braeckers" and "Herstal".



In addition, There is a monogram on the top of the rib that matches the monogram on my rifle.

Although the monogram is typically referenced as "EB", I think perhaps it might be the letters "BCC" which could stand for "Braeckers, Charles & Cie". (two opposing "C"'s with the letter "B" intertwined ? ? ? )



Also, there is a small distinct feature on the two actions that match on the guns. A small "raised" island that acts as a "stop" for the lever. I have not yet found this feature by any other maker.



As always, your comments are welcome.

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Thanks again to all.

For those that would like to see some additional photos of the rifle - here are a few.


















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Nice find, Buckstix
I have a Ets Braekers double from 1926 in 500NE. (It's in the back of the safe)
I would say that it is light for caliber (below 10lbs IIRC). Yours certainly appear to be light too.
Braekers made or resold great stuff.
I think I have a catalog. I'll see what I can dig out.
Best regards,
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