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I have recently acquired my first double gun and was interested in learning more about it. I believe it to be a cape gun (shotgun on one side, rifle on the other) The bores look to be 16ga and 218 bee or 22wcf. It has Austrian Markings and is marked Franz Neuber and Sohn. I did some at-home tests and believe that the receiver is silver plated. It has a very nice engraving. Basically, I am trying to find out any info I can on this gun. I will add pictures if someone can tell me how haha. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Zach

zachs21,
When you post photos, be sure to include photos of the proofmarks, which are found on the underside of the barrels.Guns like this are often found with the rifle barrel lined to some other caliber.The proof marks will show the original cartridge, and if it is now different, it has been relined.Also include photo of both ends of the barrels and a chamber cast.
Mike

How do I attach photos?

zachs21

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=148935#Post148935

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Hope that works! Thanks in advance for any help!

Zachs21,
I'm sorry,I can't make out all the markings on your gun.However, it does seem to show a 5.5mm(5.3?),which does indicate some 22 caliber cartridge.The photo of the muzzle doesn't show that it was relined, so whatever it is, is likely the original cartridge.This photo seems to show the top rib comming loose.If this is true, you should have it repaired by someone experienced with this type work.A loose rib(if true)is a little disturbing because the gun seems to have been refinished.If the barrels were reblued using a hot caustic salts method, that might be the source of the problem. While one of the proofmarks that I can see, seems to be a German "View" proofmark, the form of the barrels, seems Belgian. Do you think you could take clearer photos of the marks under the barrels? you might have to set up additional lighting or reflectors. Maybe Raimey or someone else can do more with the photos than I.
Mike