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A friend got in a box of old ammo and in it was 15 rounds of this RWS 8x57JR. I miked the bullets as close to the case as possible and they measured .315 so I can use this in my drilling which has the .318 bore, (I'll pull one to make sure). Does anyone recognize this style of bullet with that shoulder up front and the cannelure in front of the case mouth? Thanks, Rob 
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Are the letters "TIG"(Torpedo Ideal) or "TUG"(Torpedo Universal) on the box? It looks to be a Brenneke TUG bullet, http://www.brenneke.de/pdf/HUNTERNEWS_opt_besch.pdf . DWM versions were made by Industrie Werke Karlsrube AG at Grotzingen from the mid 1950s to early 1970s. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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wait to you see its butt!!!
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not sure what that archaic .315 means but bullet diameter should be 8,09mm. if it's jr it was designed to be shot out of 7,80mm/8,07mm spec barrel. 'j' is my favorite part as it stands for 'jager'. 
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I like the Jaeger thought, but curious. From the I.G., Infanteriegewehr, such as found in "I.G.MOD.71/84", the J.R. is a bastardized I.R. for Infanterie Rand.
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With that fold in the bullet jacket visible near the case mouth I'd say that was an RWS H-mantel, sort of a precursor to Nosler's partition. The shoulder up front is also a common European style; it makes for a clean non-closing entry hole like a semi wadcutter (and it also makes for a less complicated die to form the points...)
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I agree with Steve. iIt's a RWS H Mantel, I hade a 1924 M-S Sporting Rifle in 8x60 mag that came with a box of loaded ammo with this bullet. They were some hot mama's. They make fine sharp cut holes in targets.
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Thank you all, the rounds were in a bag, no box. The rest of the ammo in the box seemed to be from the late 1970- 1980's. I would think the .315 measurement I'm getting must be larger under the brass, the JR is for .318 guns, the JRS is for the .323 BTW, the J doesn't stand for "jaeger", the German "I" looks like a "J", Raimey has it, it stands for Infantry. Looks like it's the RWS ID Classic.
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RR,
RWS ID Classic is the new name for old RWS TIG. I was told this happened after RWS discontinued their long lasting contract with Brenneke recently.
With kind regards,
Jani
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I was told by a German buddy that the sharp ridge was so hair would be cut from the hide of an animal and fall onto the ground so the hunter would know he hit it. What he said, anyway.
I have some RWS 293 TUG bullets like that
Mike
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