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For a couple of years now, I've been hunting squirrels 'n crows with Eley Tenex in my Kimber. Today I tested Eley Subsonic Hollowpoints for the first time.
Altho' I've had good results with Tenex with squirrels on a log, I think crows need a bit more killing power at longer ranges.
Called it a day with a hunting group of five in a fingernail @ 55yds. - do think I can squeeze that size down some next time around.
So!
With Eley Subsonics, what size vermin can be shot-up to, or is this cartridge still a squirrel 'n crow game?

Should work great on pigeons.

The 22 subs still carry lots of penetration under 100yds. Pretty much all small game under 30 lbs should fall to a vital shot. I'm not sure what you have in the fields of MO in that range but racoons would be no problem with a vital shot under 100yds IMO. The problem is ensuring a vital shot on small game at relatively long distances can be challenging.

I shoot a lot of raccoons with a .22 every year before I put up an electric fence (five and seven inches above the ground) to keep them out of my one-acre vineyard. Agree with Chuck: I would think twice about making a clean kill at 75 to 100 yards.

I use Win. sub. hollow points; I imagine the ballistics are very similar to the Eleys
I have no problem with clean kills on rabbits out to 100 (and sometimes beyond), but accurate range and wind estimation and knowledge of the trajectory become crucial beyond about 60-75, making it an iffy proposition beyond there not for lack of terminal energy, but for loopy trajectory and wind affectedness.
RG

I've shot some racoons with a 22 pistol using common hi-vel (1300fps out of a rifle) which equates to about hi 900s fps if I recall some magazine quotes. But they were close, maybe 15-25yds.

Look on the box, Eley puts the velocity for the lot on each box. In "Rifleman's Guide to Rimfire Ammunition", Steve Boelter's testing showed Eley Subsonic at 1021.9 and Tenex EPS at 1073. Steve Boelter is a champion rimfire benchrest shooter. This velocity difference is enough to cause a change in group size. In terms of killing power, there is no measurable difference between the two. If you want to move up, get one of the 17's.


22 Hornet, 17hmr, 17hm2, 22lr

Pete

Up in the squirrel woods shots are only 20-25 yards max, little more with called in crows.
We have the large Eastern Coyote and the usual 'sortment of vermin which I can live with most of the time - but who knows!
Pack of dogs are another story.

In the post Wby. world of the speedy centerfire cartridge, bigger and slower is now better. I think it's the same with the 40g 22lr over those tiny 17s.

Pete M,

That .17HMR does not look to be one at all .. illustration looks more like a 17 Mach lV, also Hornet looks much more like 'K Hornet than a regular Hornet.