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Pre-1913 Smiths were listed with some gradation of English Walnut, and French Walnut on higher grades

To finish this inquiry, these questions were really raised at last September Vintegers' shoot in Pennsylvania when I looked over a John Dickson central-fire dated per his records from 1865. On holding it I immediately said "converted pin-fire" and was met with hostility. The records proved me wrong. "Amazing Grace " - "I was blind, now I see" comes to mind something more experienced English gun observers would laugh at.

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I have 1901 for the 10 and 12 gauge (non-ejector). The year 1900 ended at 105917 for the 10 and 12 gauge (non-ejector). The serial numbers in 1901 went up to 111681 for that year. So, 1901 is correct.

This carries four boxes of 12 gauge if you want to carry something smaller.

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ChiefC

Steve, I sent you a message about shipping info and you removed yourself from the conversation, what's up?

I've owned probably 10-12 solid rib Superposeds, both 12 and 20 gauge, and all of them were Grade 1 field guns. They were usually 1 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 14 1/4 to a Browning buttplate, with a few being 2 3/8 at the heel. Maybe one had 2 1/4 d@h. They ranged from early '50's to early '60's production. It's pretty rare to find one from that time period with less drop than I mention.
JR

Thanks. Whoever did the restoration did wonderful work. I prefer non restored guns, but can't always be too picky. The set trigger screw was frozen up when I got it, and snapped trying to free it up. Fortunately it's a factory single set, so I was able to order the screw once I got the stub out of the trigger.

Only happens to me when I access the site on my Iphone late at night. Doesn't happen on my desktop, which is where I almost always login.
JR

I'd say the gun could be either a Grade 7D or 8E, based upon the engraving and embellishment. There seems to be some overlap between the grades. Going by the serial number of this gun, and the engraved name of the company, along with the "Not Connected With Lefever Arms Co." disclaimer. I would also guess it to be a Syracuse built gun made in 1903. However, this is a trigger plate action, and I'm not sure the trigger plate action guns were built while the new company was still in Syracuse. However, I know of one Grade 9F that also has the "Not Connected With Lefever Arms Co." disclaimer, and the 9F supposedly was not introduced until 1905 when the company was in Bowling Green, Ohio.

The Grade of D.M Lefever Crossbolt guns is sometimes found written in pencil under the grip cap, and less frequently under the buttplate or trigger guard. I have one almost identical to this one, but don't know whether to call it a 7D or 8E grade because it has a semi-pistol grip. My gun also has Damascus barrels.

All things come to him who waits .........

Marplot,
Microsoft stopped it. Raimey( ellenber) also had a problem, I think. Looking at the new photos above, it looks like Krausser built it around Heym parts. A really nice gun.
Mike

Blue encircled are the A&D Screws.

Purple encircled is the signal indicator / loaded indicator / cocking indicator - signal pin

Yellow encircled is the sideplate/false plate retaining screw.

Red encircled is the crosspin bolt that holds the 2 sideplate in battery.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Hello Mike,
Yes, I will not alter the rifle in any way. In fact I will not even remove the bases. I plan to make a "hook" & a "peg" to precisely fit the bases, and then attach them to some old vintage steel see-thru scope rings that I squirreled away years ago.

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