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tomc,
If you are contemplating doing the work yourself, this may be a fun project. If the dimensions with the added on spacer make the stock fit you, you can use the stock for a pattern to have a buttstock replicated. This would cost you about $125 or so for the machining plus the cost of the wood. The wood could be pretty cheap, maybe $25-50. Then you would need to do some fitting of the wood to the metal and sanding and finishing of the outside. The barrels would be rust blued, which you can learn to do with only a stainless tank and a stovetop along with some sandpaper and elbow grease. Refinishing the reciever is a bit more involved but you can prep the metal and send it for color casehardening for not much money. I think a $500 budget for the materials and outside work would be do-able. You may be able to beat that if you can scrounge up a suitable boiling tank for the rustblueing. I had a friend with a fabrication shop build mine. But other than the tank, there's not much you can save on.

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Try buying a replacement (used) stock from Gunparts. Your gun was made by Ithaca using the design from an Ithaca Lefever Nitro Special. It's a hardy work horse and if still tight it'll be worth the price of a used stock.

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The value of your gun on the open market should be of only passing concern in deciding whether to restore or not. If I like a gun I really don't care. Its my mind's eye view of what I will have after restoration that makes the decision for me. I'm not always 100% happy with my finished projects but I've gotten much better at the decisions over the years. Hey........what would you spend your money on otherwise?

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What would I spend my money on otherwise? At this point in what's left of my life, Doctor's Bills!

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THANKS ALL
A GOOD USED STOCK WOULD HELP. I SHOT THIS GUN FOR FIRST TIME THE OTHER DAY. MY CONVICTIONS ARE STRONGER. AS FOR WHAT ELSE TO SPEND MONEY ON I HAVE A NEW HOUSE AND BRIDE IN MIDDLE OF INDIANA. OTHER HOBBIES INCLUDE OLD MODEL AIRPLANE ENGINES AND OLD BMW MOTORCYCLE. i RETIRED FROM A MACHINING JOB AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I NEED TO DO BUT WILL PROBABLY HAVE IT DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL. I GUESS I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT JUST WHAT IT IS I'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH.
TOM

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tomc,

As you can, every one has an opinion here.

What you have is a piece of Americana. There was a surge of shotguns being produced circa 1900. The market was highly competitive. Makers often times marketed their wares to hardware stores, sometimes to catalog houses. Most were priced so the average American could afford to them. Hence the moniker hardware guns. Usually, a person had a single shotgun. They used it for everything from rabbits to ducks with an occasional deer for good measure.

Most of these guns were good solid shooters that could put food on the table. Yours is such a gun. It will not hang in a world class museum. It will not inspire lust and envy in those that see it. However, it will be a treasure to those fortunate enough to use it.

Take it to a good smith and have him look it over. Start with the stock. You can pick up decent wood on eBay for under $100 or if you want something special just ask here. You will get a lot of referrals. You can have the existing stock duplicated for about $125. It will still need a final fitting, finished, checkered. If you can do any of that yourself, so much the better. After that then you can decide if needs some more touching up.

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Thanks Pete
I think the majority of the work will involve the wood. I already have a nice peice of walnut I was saving for someday which is here now. A new set of screws will solve the metalwork. The bluing is good the receiver is brown. there is some light engraving on the receiver a bird dog pointing on both sides. Is that normal?
Thanks again,
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Very good. Sounds like a fun project. As for the engraving, I do not know. Perhaps some one else will be able to give you an answer.

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I just finished a full restor on a Western arms 20ga and I also just learned to post photos so here goes.

before




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Now if I can only learn to type and spell.

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Welcome to the board, Tom. The decision will have to be yours to make. I was also wondering when you said it was used by a Boy Scout troup, that maybe you could save it the way it is and use it for a small kid learning to shoot. You could do something temporarily as someone mentioned and always have a gun with a short stock to teach a youngster with. Or you could redo it. You'll just have to decide........And mark, I had to laugh at myself when I was looking at the gun you redid. I didn't see the word "before" above the top picture and as I was looking at your gun, I wondered how bad did it look before you redid it. (I thought the top two pictures were after you overhauled it.) Then the bottom two pictures popped up and was I shocked. You really did a great job on this, guy. It probably looks better now than the day it was shipped. Good job!

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