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When I bought my Ljutic trap gun several years ago, the guy I bought it from was with me when I first shot it and he told me that I had to come right up to the target to break the bird. The gun wasn't set up for me and I noticed the beads weren't stacked like they should be. So, I adapted to the gun. That was perfect for me because like Al Ljutic said, you should wait for the target to reach it's apex when you shoot it. That is the way I do it- it makes the target appear to be stationary. And not rising. So I figured the gun shoots about 45/55 or even 40/60 POI which is okay for me, because, I have occasionally had the habit of over running the target. And sometimes when I do over run the target, for a split second I think oh-no. Then all of a sudden- powder!! Works for me. Also, the barrel on that gun is 33" which is kind of rare.

I’ve got two adjustable high rib sporting guns and two flat rib sporting guns. I shoot all of them equally good or bad depending on the day😀.They’re set up for me to look straight down the rib and they all shoot to the same 60-40. I don’t get the stacked bead concept.

When ever I pick up a shotgun for the first time I automatically look for the rib and the beads to get my alignment and see how it fits. After that I don't really care. I have a Manufrance Ideal with swamped ribs and shoot it just fine.

The way stacking the beads is supposed to work is that when the beads form a figure 8, or are stacked, it is supposed to shoot somewhere between flat and 60/40. All mine shoot 60/40 when stacked.

The stacked bead thing is more of a trapshooter concept. POI on a trap gun is supposed to be high because the target is rising. Lead is built in. The sight picture is generally the mid bead at the base of the front bead in a figure 8 pattern. When Jimmy W referred to his trap gun shooting 40/60, that’s a new one on me. I’m sure Al Ljutic forgot more about trapshooting than I’ll ever know but to shoot the bird at it’s apex is just, weird. When I shot trap I’d try to shoot the singles quickly to establish my timing for when I shot doubles. But I digress.

No, I disagree. My Perazzi shoots barely 60/40 when the beads are stacked. I haven't screwed with it. I thought trapshooters liked them to shoot much higher than 60/40. ????

It depends on the individual, I believe. I know guys that like it 100% high or 90/10, stuff like that. It all seems very obscure to me but trapshooters can be a particular bunch. Maybe there’s a trapshooter who could discuss his preference or use of the beads?

I’m with Stan in this one. Most of the trap shooters I know would consider 60/40 a flat shooting gun. 90/10 or 100/0 is not unheard of.

I know what Al Ljutic says about shooting seems weird. If I can find the book that came with the gun I'll show it to you. I see a lot of guys who brake trap targets before they get 10 feet from the house. But if you wait until they reach their apex, they appear to be stationary targets. And that 1200 fps shot will catch them real quick.

Shooting a gun with a "built in lead", for rising targets, is like driving a truck that has a front end set up to pull to the right, to keep you out of oncoming traffic. It's useless for anything else.

I know accomplished sporting clays shooters who can do well on a skeet course, or a trap course. But, I've never met a dedicated trap shooter who can shoot anything else worth a darn, or who even tries. That's not an indictment of everyone who shoots trap, just a personal observation. Trap shooters, and skeet shooters, can be very close minded. I know a lady who was a GA Ladies skeet champion. Her and her husband were at the top fo the game in accomplishments. They tried to shoot a round of sporting clays on a local course that one of my best friends had just shot a 96/100 on. She shot something like 37/100. Her husband declared there were targets on that course that could not be broken with a shotgun.