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Nca225? Really animal farm and 1984 kinda say it differently
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Hi mc,
I appreciate your skepticism.
While everybody is free to take from any author's writings, what they want, I find that both novels, Animal Farm and 1984 warn against the evil of the corruption of power rather the ills of Socialism.
In Animal Farm for example this can be seen in the different mentality of the several pigs. The character, Snowball, who was instrumental in rebellion on the farm, for instance was striving to set up an animal socialist society along the lines of what Old Major had envisioned ie the wealth and fruits of their labor being spread across the farm's population. However after Old Major had met his end, Snowball was quickly expelled by Napoleon and his soldier dogs, and under their propaganda (squealed out by Squealler) was made to be the root of all the farm's evils that befell them, while in reality it was Napoleon and his rise to absolute power, retention of the farm's wealth, and control over all aspects of farm life that was concealed from the farm population. Not so much a warning of the evils of Democratic Socialism as opposed to the evils of the power hungry that corrupt to their own ends and pervert it into communism under a totalitarian regime.
1984 on the other hand had nothing to do with any type of economic system. 1984 was strait up about the evil of the absolute power of a totalitarian regime, Big Brother, which controlled all aspects of its subjects lives right down to what words you can say, and how one should think under the regime's instruction. Unfortunately for Winston, he had a bad run of it against the regime in Oceania.
I have to admit, these are very good reads and I haven't thought too much about them respectively since grade school, but your response made me pick them up again. I appreciate that. There are other writing and essays of Orwell you may want to check out to gain a further understanding of his warning to us. I hope you enjoy them should wish to read them. '
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I want to second nca225's interpretation of the two novels. And I'd like to recommend Orwell's essay Politics and the English Language where he shows how the misuse of words by politicians signals a corruption they seek to hide. 1984 takes the misuse of language to its ultimate conclusion' but it's easy to see how many current "leaders" twist the language to support a twisted reality. The notion of "alternate facts" is a corruption Orwell foresaw.
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Animal farm is the Russian revolution,animal farm shows the willingness of people to follow a failed ideology I have read his worries in his life it is a lot different then what most people regurgitate.1984 absolute power corrupts absolutely
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Rocky Mountain bill ,,,are you serious?????
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mc, I'm serious about things I consider important. From your reply I have to say it's hard to tell what you mean. If you want to argue with my post, say what the hell you think.
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I orwell saw the facts of a too powerful government being able to ban what is considered normal life ,banning books crushing creativity not manipulating with language but with a big stick,,that's whst I mean
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Oh, That explains everything.
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Rocky Mountain bill ,,,are you serious????? Uh oh, mc. You have prodded the captain proletariat, donning the pride pink cape, able to leap constitution kryptonite in a selective bound.
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Rocky mtn.bill I agree with you politicians twisting and using language to corrupt and hide misdeeds,Biden and his son have cornered the market don't you think! I really didn't connect biden till you pointed it out thank you for pointing out the truth.
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