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Thanks, Karl. Food for thought.

SRH

Drew's diagrams haven't changed much over the years. DAC is usually measured at the start of the comb even today by most.

Not a huge fan of Don Currie but



#2 is standard for DAC measurement from all the books I have on it.

Currie's diagram does bring up a good point, that there are a lot of other measurements to gun fit. #3 is Drop at Face and Dave Erickson gave a great example of that. He shot that custom ordered Iside well before shaping and expect he will now be even a stronger force to be contended with. Oh just freaking great

Comb thickness was also mentioned and has a huge impact IMO. 870's and model 12's were mentioned but the Ithaca 37 field has no pitch, and no cast. And a very thin comb. I shoot them extremely well.

Surprised that the parallel comb that Drew also mentioned hasn't taken off more than it has over the years. Didn't realize it has been around that long. On my target shotguns I normally set them up to be as parallel as possible. With a 4 way adjustable comb and using offset. Even on my 32" Dickinson Sporting gun.



Still a work in progress and sometimes regret selling my 682 Gold target gun. Sometimes..

I can pick up my 20 ga. Winchester 23 and usually hammer targets with factory dimensions which are different than most of my other target and hunting guns. As long as I don't think and use swing through.

Metrics can be measured with consistency. Measure at the start of the comb, most do. But there are a lot of other measurements involved IME. It is complicated...

Well not really, see the bird shoot the bird. But it sure helps if the gun shoots where you are expecting it to and are used to.

Excellent point, CZ. Which, IMO, makes cast somewhat variable. I know that I can shoot some guns with no cast fairly well, and I can shoot some with at least 1/4" of cast fairly well. The X factor, as you point out, is the thickness of the stock.

Too thick a comb is much worse than too thin, IMO. A very thick comb only works for me if there is some cast. Within limits most can learn to adapt pretty well to a too thin comb, or a little too much drop, by cheeking the gun "lighter". We look at the bird/clay when shooting, but the rib is in our line of sight, just out of focus. Some people seem to have learned to make the small corrections to line up with the rib instantly, not ever looking at it in focus, and without much conscious thought. I shoot a variety of shotguns pretty well, with varying amount of drop. The critical things for me are ........... (1) it can't be stocked so high that I have to cheek it hard to get it to shoot nearly flat, (2) and it can't be so thick in the comb that I can't line up on the rib.

I have a friend who can pick up almost any shotgun and shoot it well. Some people are just better at instantly adapting than others.

Could it be because he's a do'er and not a wonder'er ?

Good point Toby...thanks for the hands on contribution.

What contribution are you in disagreement with ?

Some shooters prefer a gun with a DAF that puts their eye directly in line with the beads. Others prefer to be well above the beads. Some shooters shoot both styles well, even though there may be a quarter inch or more difference in the DAF. Those who collect shotguns by the dozens had better learn to shoot both ways. The truth is that most shooters who are hunters don't have to shoot a high average to be happy. If you are shooting for money, shoot the gun among your many that you shoot the best. No fuss, no muss.

You're the only one here who would have to ask that. Think about it, if that's not too taxing for you. Who contributed the least to the discussion? Bingo!

SRH

Thought you said I made good point Stanley.