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Originally Posted By: Erik330
No Don, not so. The FORMER (in Missouri, not to be confused with the EXCELLENT current Montana US branch) did some things "on their own" that were particularly bad.


Maybe....but they never did a sleeving job in Springfield.

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E330 - I'm not defending the MO WR store, just agree with BB that sleeving was not done at that shop. Far as I know, WR sleeving was all done at WR in the UK. Work sent out by the MO store would not be WR sleeving unless they sent it back to WR. As I recall, they did have an assortment of good, bad, and ugly. No surprise that they might have had some bad and ugly.

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WR Missouri was getting guns sleeved that had nothing to do with sending them to WR/the Clode's in England is my point. We all generally agree. Good, bad, and ugly in both places, but uglier in Missouri.

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Originally Posted By: Rocketman
E330 - I'm not defending the MO WR store, just agree with BB that sleeving was not done at that shop. Far as I know, WR sleeving was all done at WR in the UK. Work sent out by the MO store would not be WR sleeving unless they sent it back to WR. As I recall, they did have an assortment of good, bad, and ugly. No surprise that they might have had some bad and ugly.


That was exactly how it was done.......guns were sent to the UK for sleeving and any other major work. There was an in house smith that could do some minor things (but, in my opinion, not that well). Simon was in house in Springfield every few months...it was totally his operation and, as I understand it, mostly his money. One of the big problems, again from my prospective, is that they allowed their junk to be picked up cheap and resold on the internet by a gent who was sometimes less than honest. He often referenced WRA and their smith in his auction descriptions. I always felt that that reflected poorly on what could have generally been a quality operation.

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Let me try this in English. The WR Missouri store sent guns to a sleever that was NOT WR in England, the Clodes, or anyone associated with either. I saw guns and invoices at another sleever with paperwork from WR in Missouri and some of the finished product before being shipped back and they were horrible.

That is NOT to say that some of the work done BY WR IN ENGLAND was not great either, which is what I tried to say in my earliest post on the subject.

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E330 - We agree, only I don't know about the other firm in the UK doing work for them. Could have been that SC was using Springfield as a junk outlet - although I don't remember seeing much that was really horrible on the shelves there. Maybe I just don't remember as I wasn't much interested in junk.

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http://www.gunsamerica.com/976938037/Guns/Shotguns/Custom-Shotguns/PURDEY_PIGEON_12_GAUGE_SXS.htm

Seems she still is on the market...without mention of the hidden barrel sleeving.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976938037/Guns/Shotguns/Custom-Shotguns/PURDEY_PIGEON_12_GAUGE_SXS.htm

Seems she still is on the market...without mention of the hidden barrel sleeving.


Do what? That's not the same gun as the Steve Barnett gun. The Barnett gun had a checkered butt and was restocked. It was a 2 1/2" game gun without side clips, not a heavy proof pigeon gun with side clips and third fastener.

Maybe I'm missing something, but that's not the same gun.

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That is a different gun....I guess I'd had been drinking Lowells mOOn shine when I ran across it.

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Well pass the Mason jar then!

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