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As I mentioned a few weeks ago, I recently purchased a 10 ga. Charles Daley Hammer gun, circa 1885. Let me first say that 3 weeks ago I visited a pheasant farm, and that 10 ga. really knocks them down. However, I'm new to hammer guns and I have to learn how to use it properly. If I shoot the right barrel, break the gun open, replace the spent shell with a new shell, the gun will not close. This is because the "left" firing pin is protruding and it hits the extractor, which prevents the gun from closing. If I push the firing pin in with my finger, the gun closes easily. I don't mind doing this, but it seems unlikely that the firing pin and extractors would have survived 135 years of use with this interference. When I received the gun, I had a gunsmith inspect it, and partially disassemble it, and he stated that it never had "springs" on the firing pins. Is there a special technique for operating this fine gun, or do I just need to be extremely careful whenever I close it? Jeff
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Is the left cocked? What happens if you only cock and fire the right side?
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Well.... that's a fair question. Today I was shooting "clays" in the field with my family. I was only using, and only cocking the right barrel. I had not cocked the left barrel.
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I had a gun that the extractor would hit the pins on closing. I added springs and solved the problem. I don't know if it had springs originally, but it does now.
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Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
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Jeff S, Repeatedly firing one barrel, without a shell/cartridge or snap cap in the other, allows inertia from the repeated recoil to jam the firing pin forward( sometimes even if it has springs). Don't ask how I know this. Mike
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Mike, This is something I will try to remember well. Cheers, Jani
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Jani, "While I have you on the line", Do you know of a source for factory loaded 6.5x58R S&S ammo ( NO reloads-I do my own)? Mike
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Jeff S, Repeatedly firing one barrel, without a shell/cartridge or snap cap in the other, allows inertia from the repeated recoil to jam the firing pin forward( sometimes even if it has springs). Don't ask how I know this. Mike It's really funny that you mentioned shooting just the right barrel. Today, I shot my first round of skeet using this hammer gun. I shot a 17, which isn't bad for my first round with it. I really need to focus on swinging those heavy barrels. I was "behind" the clay a few times. Anyway, I realized that when I shot the "doubles" (stations 1, 2, 6 and 7) I didn't have the problem. As I was driving home I concluded that next time, while shooting singles, I would load both barrels, but only cock one of the hammers (both barrels are choked the same). Eventually I may have learn how to reload these shells. One round of skeet equals $40 for RST shells.
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Or subgauge inserts.
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Raimey rse
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