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I thought I was content with my 28� 20s for the uplands but I recently picked up a 30� 20ga Arrieta and have been impressed with the balance and feel. It�s only been to the range so far but I have high hopes for next season. It�s barely 2oz heavier than my 28� 20s.

A DGJ article on the long-barrelled Widgeon Duck Club DHEs started me down this path. Since moving to Idaho, my days of navigating the tight quarters of grouse and woodcock thickets are minimal. Most of my �covers� are now miles and miles of open space so I figured I�d give longer barrels a chance.

I�m contemplating a 30� 20ga Model 21 as a clays/high volume shooter. Anyone shoot one? I�d welcome some pics!

Save some srious money, this one is $3200:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101135134

I had a 30 in Mdl 21. Choked full and full. Couldn't hit a damn thing with it. Nothing against the long barrels. In fact have a 30 in 20 ga RBL being prepped for me now. Good luck in your search.

I inherited a Parker 20 ga. with 30 inch pipes F-F. My great GF had ordered it for waterfowl in 1914.

I never could hit much with it until I restocked it to my dimensions and started rolling spreader loads for it. I now use it for sharptails and sage-grouse in the big open a few times a year, usually a spreader in the first barrel and a regular load in the second.

Find that 21!

Mercy, what some wood.

SRH

Save even more serious money by going to Cabela's and buying the Dickinson 20 gauge with 30 inch tubes for $1595. There is one here in Albuquerque. I bought its little brother in 28 gauge with 30 inch tubes for the same price and love it. I have already used it quite successfully on quail. It is also going to be tested on wild pheasants this October in South Dakota.

BTW, this one here has a straight English stock with checkered butt.

Money, money, money. It's always about money.
If it were meant to be hung onto, they'd have made it with handles.

MyGSPIzzy, the long barreled sub gauge Model 21's set the standard for cool Winchesters.
Only about 100 30" 20 gauges were ever produced.

I purchased this 2 barrel set from its' original owner. 30" Full and Full, 26" WS1/WS2.
In 1947, little Anne Mudge and her father walked into A & F in New York and
picked out this 2 barrel "Skeet" set so they could hunt Quail and Duck together.



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Find what you want, buy it. Had a friend use a 21, 12 ga. for Sporting Clays for many years. He did have a problem with the hanger working loose with the big beaver tail fore end. Fairly easy repair. He shot tens of thousands of rounds so most average shooters would never have this problem.

The last time I stopped by Boise Gun Co., before they went belly up, they had a Model 21 20-gauge Magnum with 30-inch barrels. Didn't see it in the liquidation auction.

John and Perry, I was debating adding an Estate but figured it was too similar to my Arrieta to justify it. They do look like a lot of gun for the money.

Perry, is the rib as raised as it looks in the pics online?

Bob, if only 100, that would probably explain why I haven�t come across a 30� 20ga with a straight grip. I suppose a modern recreation is my best bet.

Researcher, I only added them to my gun store circuit about 8 months before their bankruptcy. I wasn�t seeking a model 21 at the time but planned to bid on two guns in the liquidation. Neither were included. I heard much of their inventory was consigned.

MyGSPIzzy, here's one.

Where did you steal those pictures bOb ?

Yes the rib is raised. I am quite satisfied with the 28 I bought and I think it is a lot of gun for that amount of money. Carries and handles like a dream!!

That�s it Bob!

Thanks Perry. Decent trigger pulls?

I haven't used a trigger scale on them but I thought they were quite acceptable. I had read where some of these guns had atrocious pulls, at least according to the writer of the article. Of course, what I find acceptable might be found to be atrocious by others!! As a matter of fact, the more I participate in this discussion I am seriously beginning to think about discarding the idea of a BSS 20 and run back to Cabela's and pick up the Dickinson 20 they have!!

Dang Perry, now I�m getting the itch. I�ve never come across a BSS with 30� tubes.

Nor have I. I am talking about the Dickinson here at Cabela's in 20 gauge with 30 inch tubes as the bigger brother to my 28 with 30's that I bought from them. I don't think they ever made the BSS in anything other than 26 and 28 inch tubes. Or in anything other than 12 and 20 gauge for that matter. That little 28 I have really handles nicely with the longer tubes. First one of any kind I have ever owned with 30 inch barrels.