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AH Fox ejector snap on forends work well. Bobby

I have both and have had no problems with either, but I think the Anson push just looks more classic.
Karl

I dance with who brung me. I've got at least four different methods. I have an LC Smith that takes a tool (for me) to release the forend...a wheel, and a piece of dowel tapered down to lever the forend off is the tool.

They all work well...lever, wheel-lock, push-button, snap-off. Some are somewhat (IMO) unnecessarily complicated, for whatever reason. Seems it took a long time to figure out a relatively simple solution.

I do like the release that Raimey posted. Since I mostly have L.C. Smith's, I like the Curtis type for-end. It seems to be a modified Anson style.

Genelang, I had the same tool for an Ideal grade. I finally got tired of using the dowel and gently filed the tip of the "J" spring. It now comes off by just using the roller release.

I'm not knocking the Anson pushrod, but these look darn good to me too.

Circa 1875 John Dickson double rifle:

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Later Lancaster wristbreaker (note the later William Evans in the background w/the by then ubiquitous Anson):

The Nitro Special seems to function in this way, that is the bad news.

The good news is, it has functioned this way since 1937, with no ill effects, near as I can tell, the barrels are only going to move as far forward as the lock up system will allow them to (not much, the lever is well right of center) and there appears to be less resistance than those fancy self opener guns (hard closers) feature.



At age 55, I'm pretty sure I don't have the time to wear this one out. I might not have time to get it well broken in.


Best,
Ted

Another not mentioned so far is the lever in the middle of the forearm of the Manufrance Ideal. It locks up very tight

I think that one is similar to the lever on the German gun I mentioned, but, I don't know the technical name or patent. It wasn't going to come off with the lever closed. The wood didn't rattle around, either.

Best,
Ted

Ted;
I have over the past years shot several guns using the "J Spring" forend fastener. Some were perhaps a few thousandths off face, none really excessively so. That still doesn't prevent me from seeing the concept is just the wrong way to go.
As I stated the only one I currently own with this fastener is the Baker. The bolting on this Black Beauty is essentially identical with the Nitro Special. A wedge shaped bolt extending from the top lever swings into the rib extension from the side. An excellent system for holding the barrels shut & the Wedge is self compensating for bolt wear. This system however does "Absolutely" Nothing to keep the barrels on face, that is strictly left to the hinge pin. It just doesn't seem a matter of good design to accentuate the friction on the hinge joint every time the gun is opened & shut.
I will not that I have two guns, both over 100 years old which use a Deely type fastener & do not have bolt wear compensation, the lever always stops at center. Both are tight & on face.
The reason levers go left on compensating bolting is from the rubbing (Friction) wear in opening & shutting them. Anything which reduces the friction I deem as a plus, while anything which increases it I see as a definite minus. Thus my dislike of pulling the barrel & hinge joint together under spring pressure.
As I recall W H Baker was the inventor & patentee of this design & he referred to it as his compensating forend. Only real problem is it was compensating in the wrong direction.
It did keep the barrels from feeling loose when the gun was open, Big Deal.

I thot that I would amaze and astound you all with the Perazzi approach but then I decided that it was too much trouble and you wouldn't be able to appreciate anyway.

have another day
Dr.WtS