Jerry, I think most of us agree that our various state game agencies respond to/for "big game". The question to me is what do we collectively do? Weeping and wailing and gnashing our teeth has gotten us no where! Also a correction on my part, I suggested above that Vic Venters articles were in DGJ-Wrong, he is the Senior Editor for Shooting Sportsman, sorry, "old timer's disease". Best, Dr. BILL