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RMan
Do you have a list of how you rate a makers name brand in previous posts?...I DID look,I know I've seen it in the past,but could n't find
Like where would you put WW Greener?..same league as WC Scott?...second tier , third?
Greeners best stuff was awesome for sure,right up there in my opinion.
And the top Scott Guns were right up there in price with the big boys, even perhaps more at some stage of the game
I reckon you should write and publish a little price guide/calculator with the stuff you do.
Or put it up in the FAQ section...seems your pretty damn close on your price,according to other posters
cheers
franc

BV1 = Boss, H&H, Purdy, and Woodward

BV2 = Wesley Richards, Grant, Rigby, Dickson, Beesley, Powell, Atkin, Churchill, Henry, Lancaster, Evans, Watson, Wilkes, Greener, Boswell, Gibbs, Lang

BV3 = All other Brit brands and well known Continental makers associated with high OQ

BV4 = Lessor known Continental makers and/or associated with lower quality

BV5 = Little known Continental makers and/or associated with poor quality

Remember, it is unwise to try to associate Original Quality grade of an individual gun with the makers name. OQ stands alone. The issue with building high quality guns was not ability to build them, rather the ability to attract orders for them. Shops were run by masters and they knew how and/or who to hire. The Brit trade always knew how to earn the money for an order.

DDA

I'm sure others will have names they would like to see in the list.

For me the stand out name missing from BV2 is Hussey. Particularly HJH, but also his son HHH, not only built extremely fine guns of very high quality, but also built very valuable connections very quickly. Most HHH guns were built in pairs and most to his Grade A Imperial Ejector standard. He was a hands on gunmaker and had a very skilled team of workers at his own workshops, including John Ross.

Okay, I got it off my chest!

Tim

Rocketman?? Reginald Dwight Hemion? OK- Sir Elton John-great song indeed..

The elegance of Don's model is that it is market based, not opinion based.

It has very high confidence intervals because he works hard at it.

btw, where would you place TsKIB SOO of Soviet Union?

+1

There are a number of "names" that the market does not recognize as BV2; Scott was the biggest surprise for me. I did identify five factors that correlate well to the market's BV rankings. We can discuss if there is interest.

A BV3-OQ1-CC3 is "as good as" a BV1-OQ1-CC3. The difference is that the market values the BV3 gun at only half of the BV1 gun. This is the snag in trying to lumping OQ and BV into one factor.

Rocket man, I second the motion that you publish a booklet or a post in the FAQ section! I for one have greatly appreciate reading about this, and would really enjoy the background info on how you have compiled the list. From your posts, it is one of the most researched, informative, and readily understandable lists!

And Scott is a surprise to me as well, I would have thought it's a much better known and respected brand.

I'll need some help with this one. I think we can place the BV at three (well known Continental maker associated with high quality) or four (lesser known Continental maker and/or associated with lower quality). If the gun is the one I'm thinking of it is OQ1 (best work). Of course, CC is what it is for any individual gun.

DDA