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I don't see many 20's (bore, gauge, whatever) with 30" barrels. Are there many out there? If not why? I saw a Parker 16ga VH with 32" tubes at the southern and it was sweet to handle but it was a #1 frame. Any comments?
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Caesar Guerini makes the Summit Sporting 20 gauge in 30" and 32" versions. Beretta makes SPII sporting clays guns with 30" barrels in 20 gauge and 28 gauge. I think Perazzi has some even longer barrels (34") for 28 gauge and possibly 20 gauge. A check of the Rizzini's will probably find 30" in 20 gauge. SigArms TT 25 was made in 30", if I recall (probably a Rizzini).
30" 20 gauge can be light and smooth. Pumps and auto's will have the same overall length with a 28" barrel.
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A 34" 28ga! What do you use that for, pole vaulting fences?
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I am in the same boat as devrep. Except for modern guns, generally O/U designs, I just don't see long barreled 20's. I have recently picked up two nice pre war J P Sauer 16's with 29.5" and 30" Krupp barrels that I am considering chamber sleeving (at least one of them) in order to have my long barreled 20 gauge. My interest is in the older guns, not modern designs.
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I seem to see more long barrel 20-gauge guns by Parker Bros. then any of the other American makers. Fox catalogued 30- and 32-inch 20-gauges from beginning to end, but they are sure few and far between. I have a 30-inch AE-Grade 20-gauge Ansley H. Fox from 1920 that was ordered chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells that weighs about 6 1/2 pounds. It was shipped to Dye in Los Angeles. Must have been for some California duck club as it is a very serious full and full. For years I've had a fully loaded 30-inch 20-gauge Grade 4E NID that has a high thick combed stock like a trap gun. It is also extremely full in each barrel and weighs a bit over 7 pounds.
For years I've been looking for a regular 32-inch 20-gauge Fox, not a Super-Fox. A few years ago at the Winter Las Vegas show I found six Parker Bros. 32-inch 20-gauges, a Crown Grade L.C. Smith 32-inch 20-gauge and a fully loaded Grade 4E NID 32-inch 20-gauge, but narry a Fox.
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Devrep,
I have a 20g LC Smith Trap Grade ejector with 32" barrels. Very nice gun. I also have a modern 525 Browning (citori) that has 32" barrels which is the best shooting gun I have.
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I'd agree there are more long barrel (30") Parkers out there. Anyone know the production figures? The Parkers I've seen are pigeon guns without a tang safety.
I have a Francotte 30E 20ga. with 30" barrels circa 1923 that is a joy to shoot. Bottom line - they're out there, just keep looking.
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A 34" 28 gauge apparently worked well for So. Am. dove shooting. Probably, OK for sporting clays, also.
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I remember reading somewhere that 20 ga. 32" barrels were more common on the west coast back in the earlier years. I don't know if it was a club, but they liked 20 ga. 32" barrels. Also seems that most were Parkers and L.C. Smiths.
To find a 16 ga or 20 ga with 32" barrels is a nice find now, and I'm sure they bring premium dollar to those that know.
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ChiefShotguns,
I chamber sleeved a Fox 16 down to 20 ga.. It had 30" barrels and chambers that were like a sewer pipe. I did the job myself with much trial and error. Call it "on the time off " learning. If I decided to do it again I would have Briley do the job. The Fox was simple as I already had a 20 extractor on hand to fit to the new chamber sleeved barrel. It makes one heck of a long range dove gun. If they fly the die, unless they charge, then I have to hold fire until they get past me.
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