Originally Posted By: Kyrie
[quote=Replacement] Mark my words; the least expensive Spanish shotgun is going to cost 7000 Euro. They will lose money on any gun sold for less. Thats not the choice of the Spanish gun makers, thats the reality of the cost of making shotguns in Spain in todays world.

Folks are complaining that these prices put them out of the market for a new Spanish gun, and saying they will punish the makers by not buy Spanish guns. Gentlemen, if you cannot pay what the gun makers have to get to say in business, the makers dont want and cannot afford your custom.

Sorry, but there it is.


Kyrie, 7000 Euros is well above the price of a new AyA 4/53 or No 2 these days--and that's AFTER hefty price increases, across the board. Assuming your estimate is realistic, that means the Spanish are no longer in the mid-range sxs market, but have moved exclusively to a higher level. Indeed, if you can't afford the prices, then you can't afford the guns. On the other hand: is there enough business at the 7000 euro and up level to keep the doors open at AyA, Arrieta, Garbi, Grulla etc? Especially when the used market in this country will offer plenty of Spanish guns from the same makers for far less? Looks to me as if it's a problem as much for the sellers as it is for the buyers.