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Found locally. 1964 vintage V19 in 28 gauge, imported by Stoeger. New, in-the-box, never fired, never assembled, until I showed the elderly owner how to do that a few months past. All packing and documents remain in the box. Talk amongst yourselves. I'm verklempt. Best, Ted
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That is a find! One of those rare moments. Lucky you Ted for such a "discovery"!
Best!
Greg
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Great looking gun. A priveledge just to look at it!
This is a great topic for a thread for others to share their once in a lifetime finds. If anybody has anything else, let's see them!
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Something you will notice if you get the chance to look at enough different Darnes is that the quality of the first few years of the Stoeger imports is superb compared to the final years production of the same importer, or the bulk of what James Wayne later imported. The company was in the process of dying in the 1970s, and, it showed. I'd rate this gun as on par with any great pre-war example, and just a shade shy of a Bruchet full custom. It's that nice. This doesn't seem to be an issue with European production, just the stuff that came here. The 20 gauge that I owned and which I photographed for the summer of 1996 Double Gun Journal article I wrote was a James Wayne import, with bland wood, and cartoonish engraving. I no longer own that gun, but, wish I did, as, mechanically, it was as good a Darne gun as I've ever handled, and I couldn't seem to miss with it. Some other pretty gun bauble caught my eye, and I sold it. Good engraving isn't everything.
Best, Ted
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Ted, did you buy it from the elderly owner, or ask for the chance to buy it if he sells? Jay
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Having never held a Darne in my hands, I am curious about something. This gun has what looks to be ejectors, and if so, do the ejected hulls hit the breech and fall away, or is there some mechanism to clear them on each side ? It looks like it would be slow to reload, but looks can be deceiving.
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Ted, did you buy it from the elderly owner, or ask for the chance to buy it if he sells? Jay Both, Jay. Not on the same day though. Best, Ted
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Having never held a Darne in my hands, I am curious about something. This gun has what looks to be ejectors, and if so, do the ejected hulls hit the breech and fall away, or is there some mechanism to clear them on each side ? It looks like it would be slow to reload, but looks can be deceiving.
SRH What you are seeing in the photo is not an ejector. It is a spring loaded mortised plate that acts as an extractor to lift un-fired rounds out of the breech end of the barrels. The gun has ejectors, which, are simply hooks under the sliding breech, that pull fired rounds out of the barrels. The hooks disengage from the rim at full opening, and a pin on the face of the obturator disc gives them a shove left or right. My R10 lacks the obturator discs and the pins, a system I prefer anyway, as I can collect the emptys after they clear the hooks, but, before they are tossed off the watertable. You can also simply tilt the gun at opening and they will fall clear. I can reload a Darne about as fast as I can reload a conventional non-ejector double or O/U. I've had one for a long time, however. I know Dustin can do it, too. I wouldn't bet on Larry Brown being able to pull it off smoothly. Best, Ted
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