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Hi.

I hope someone can help me with some info on my shotgun.

age?

model name?

value?





What i got:
Manufacture Francaise D 'Armes Et Cycles De St Etiene



Left barrel
CHARGE D'EPREUVE T.3.46-36
CHARGE NORMALE VOIRE 2.5.25-36



Right barrel
MANUTACTURE FRANCAISE
D ARMES & CYCLES SAINT ETIEN



On the barrel
18,0 = bore size.
65 = the chamber legth






stem 30


from a magasin 1910, I can also find this shotgun in the 1900 magasin, however in the 1895 the same model 655 but there is a smale different.






18,0 = bore diameter mm
65 = chamber legth mm

PT with one crown above means the gun has been proofed for the normal load (by this time it meant 850 bars or 12000 pounds per sqare inch)."Charge normale"means the same .
-"�preuve fusil fini" means the gun was proofed when really ready for sale,as in the past gunmakers were on the habit ot proofing the guns before finishing(polishing,buffing, bluing...)
-MF with crossed cannons is the maker's stamp (info from this site)



http://www.bm-st-etienne.fr/simclient/in...S=BKDD_1970675#





stamp number 2 on my barrel , 3| St-estienne (page 39)





3| over PT same on my barrel (page 39)





18.0 stamp on my barrel caliber 12 (page 43) =12/65





(page 55)


NOS?
Fusils = gshotgun/gun
pour= for
poudres = pouder
pyroxyl�es = blackpouder ?

Please help me

Sure....

If the gun shown was in very good condition it would be worth maybe 5 or 6 hundred bucks....in the condition shown I'd say the gun has ZERO value.

The value goes down as the rust increases, wipe the gun down with WD40, Break Free, Triflow or if you have nothing else motor oil but STOP the rust now. My value would be 2-300.

bill

Any of the above lubricants and some 4-0000 steel wool will make that rust disappear...Geo

How pitted are the bores? If the inside is anything like the outside, save your time unless you want a nicer looking wall hanger. If the bores are pitted, it has pretty much no value except as a wall hanger which will be around $75.00 in my parts.

The barrels is in better inside then ouside. I also belive a lot off the rust can be removed.
I value is not that importent for me, is more age and model name.
I inheritedet this shotgun from my grandad and the sentementel value is graeter than cash
And the joy telling my grandad the guns historie is priceless

Any one age and model info????

Looks like a nice wallhanger. But even wallhangers fetch $200-300 on Gunbroker.

I'd buy some bronze wool (available at most hardware stores), some Kroil or other penetrating oil, and bring some elbow grease along, too. You can get rid of the active rust that way and not lose anything worth keeping: bluing, browning, plating, patina. "Sentimental value" is a REAL value, IMO.

There are guys here who know Manufrance backwards, forwards, and sideways. I'm not one of them, but maybe one will chime in and let you know where this gun fits in the Manufrance world. I fairly recently visited their museum, but it is more focused on bikes and bicycles than guns, although there were a couple of drool-making "Ideals" there.

Lets hope the right guys will find this topic and when I return from huntig this weekend a lot off info will wait for me

I recived a mail from the museum today, so lets hope they can help me.

M.O.

try this link, they are frency focused.
http://www.gournetusa.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=4