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It's my understanding that you also get turned back at the border by Canadian authorities if you have a DUI on your record, although there's some process under which you can pay a few hundred $ so that you can pass "Go".

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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
It's my understanding that you also get turned back at the border by Canadian authorities if you have a DUI on your record, although there's some process under which you can pay a few hundred $ so that you can pass "Go".


Don't think that is true.


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Originally Posted By: Dave in Maine
Once they're convicted, they won't be welcome in Canada.

A few years back, they were turning back people with 30 year old pleas to minor possession charges on the grounds that they were convicted drug criminals.


This is pretty much the same for Canadians going to the US. And if anything US border has become even more difficult. I know people who live in border cities (e.g.Windsor/Detroit and Tsawassen/Point Roberts on the west coast). There has been a culture of border crossing, especially for Canadians crossing to buy stuff cheaper in the US, like gas. In the last 10 years it has become waaaay more difficult to cross into the US.

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Originally Posted By: old colonel
Are the laws on exporting firearms ammunition or components clear of not? I thought it was clear that any ammo or components required an export license for each shipment.

I would believe that a company in the business of selling ammo and components would know and adhere to having the right paperwork on exporting.

Did I miss some part of the story? Are obsolete or rare ammunition exempted and I did not know it?
While no-one honestly believes what these guys shipped was a terrorist. It is unclear in the articles if the charges were based on a good intention misunderstanding of the rules; or if there were previous warnings prior to the raft of charges?
While the BATF does have a well deserved bad rep, before I hear more details I am not ready to throw them under the bus

I know I have had challenges trying to get reloading components from Italy (like number overshot cards) as I cant get anyone willing to ship them to me.

US sourced ammunition through the mail is an actual security issue in some countries (like mexico, not canada or new zealand)


Every Canadian gun owner I know, knows it is a real problem trying to bring ammo back from the US, and the problem lies in exporting from the US, not importing into Canada. In fact there are countless, credible reports of Canadians attending meets/gun and hunting stores in the US border states and having their license numbers taken by US border patrol so they can be checked when they go to exit the country.

As much as we don't like the law, it is impossible these guys didn't know that what they were doing was illegal.


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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
It's my understanding that you also get turned back at the border by Canadian authorities if you have a DUI on your record, although there's some process under which you can pay a few hundred $ so that you can pass "Go".


Don't think that is true.


It is true, both parts. My father and I, and he and his friends, had been fishing in Canada a number of times. On the last trip, he was turned back, for a DUI received in 1983. He was given paperwork to complete (no good for this trip, but would help in the future) that included requests for documents such as proof of rehabilitation program completion, $300, etc. His decision was to fish the Lower 48 the rest of his life, but now that we're talking of riding motorcycles to Alaska, he's needing to take another look at the process.

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
.....And if anything US border has become even more difficult....


I've traveled the world quite a bit (7 continents, 40 countries, many on multiple occasions) and I always find getting back to the US, after a trip to Canada, the most painful - excluding one extended trip to several ME countries, that got me a special tour of the back rooms of IAH.

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Originally Posted By: HammerGuy
Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
It's my understanding that you also get turned back at the border by Canadian authorities if you have a DUI on your record, although there's some process under which you can pay a few hundred $ so that you can pass "Go".


Don't think that is true.


It is true, both parts. My father and I, and he and his friends, had been fishing in Canada a number of times. On the last trip, he was turned back, for a DUI received in 1983. He was given paperwork to complete (no good for this trip, but would help in the future) that included requests for documents such as proof of rehabilitation program completion, $300, etc. His decision was to fish the Lower 48 the rest of his life, but now that we're talking of riding motorcycles to Alaska, he's needing to take another look at the process.


Well, I stand corrected. I know Americans who have DUI charges in their past who have had no problem with it so perhaps it gets applied selectively.

I will say this, As a Canadian, I am appalled my government is charging a fee to Americans to "help ease the process" for something like that. That's a legalized bribe in my book.


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Originally Posted By: canvasback
I will say this, As a Canadian, I am appalled my government is charging a fee to Americans to "help ease the process" for something like that...


I wouldn't sweat it. Given the highly socialized direction our countries are going, that fee probably just barely covers the bureaucratic efforts.

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