What Larry said! I have a guest/hunter who shoots nothing but 3 inch Mag # 4's in a Beretta OU.Xtra full chokes. He wears a thingydingy on his knuckle to slow down the bruising from the trigger. He doesnt kill s**t. Shoots at everything that flies. He would have alot more fun with lighter loads and more open chokes, but He has a PHD, so cant tell him nuttin...