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Anyone here have a closeup picture of the correct marking's under the barrels of krupp steel barrels. Thanks

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16 ga. Fabrique Nationale sometime in the early 20's.


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Hi Thank you. Were barrels ever marked in any other way than -fluid-steel-krupp-essen- ?? Can original barrels ever be marked -fluss-stahl-krupp-essen- Thanks for the help.

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Were the barrels marked by the krupp plant over there or were barrels marked here in the U.S. by whoever bought them. Thanks

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Originally Posted By: Ithaca16
Hi Thank you. Were barrels ever marked in any other way than -fluid-steel-krupp-essen- ?? Can original barrels ever be marked -fluss-stahl-krupp-essen- Thanks for the help.


Sure - if the barrels were going through a German gunmaker. "Fluss Stahl Krupp Essen" is merely German for "Fluid steel Krupp Essen".


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It really varied. Some guns have no offical Krupp markings.

I have an Aubrey with only the code K on the receiver.

I have seen other guns simply marked "Krupp", or "Krupp Fluid Steel".

I have also seen Belgian guns marked "Acier Krupp".

Hope fully Raimey will add some insight here.


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Just a quick note to try to get up to speed on this thread, but if you want to glean a bit of info follow the thread here, http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=152744&page=6 , and note the Krupp composition on Heym's site on the last post. I think that the Krupp stamp noted a recipe, albeit a time varying one. Axel seems to indicate that research centered around tube composition is futile and if the solution goes to zero, so be it. But I still contend there is something to it. Without centrifuging a sample of the tube in question, one would have to date the longarm and hope that the tubes were made during the finite period the longarm was completed. As of late there has been some focus on German longarms assembled just after WWII. Somewhere between 1950 and 1953 raw material were very low and makers made do. It seems that any thing that could be considered surplus was used or converted for the effort. Stamps were used and tossed when a poor mark was the result. They seem to vary depending on the source so there will be variations in the letter type on the same type of steel. Also it appears that Krupp was sourced by many so depending in what country the tube maker might reside, might result in a variation in all.

Drew if theose stamps are Cavemen just forward of the flats on that Tobin, I'd really like a closer look.

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This stamping effort in 1947 looks as if someone wanted you to think that Sauer made steel with the "S"s in the rings and J.P. Sauer & Sohn in the band where Krupp Fluss Stahl is usually seen. I've seen those stamps on the lugs on Merkels and I'm curious if they are related to pattern counts?

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