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Morning all,
Smith and I have just started talking about doing something different out of the doublegun realm and are contemplating doing a single shot rifle in .260 Rem. Although just in the discussion phase, the initial thought was to modify a Ruger number 3. Then we talked about upping the ante a bit and going with a bit more refined (and certainly expensive) falling block action. Up popped the idea of using either a Hagn or a Dakota model 10 action. Would appreciate thoughts on either type of action.
PS. Pictures of other guns board members have with these respective actions would be super. Thanks much.
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For some good photos please consult Steve Hughes' book Custom Rifles in Black and White. Please note the non-original levers on these rifles.
IMO the Dakota is somewhat ugly unless the lever is changed, please see Steve's more-solid-appearing example in his book. OTOH one of the Hagn original-design levers IMO is ugly while the other IMO is just about perfect. Ed Webber's Hagn lever alteration shown in Steve's book is also IMO very elegantly beautiful.
Both actions are plenty strong and safe but I much prefer the Hagn, AAMOF I'd rather have a Ruger than an unmodified Dakota. JMO.
Regards, Joe
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Thanks Joe.
There are lots of pix on my Web site...
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Here is my Hagn 20 bore rifle. 
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Terry, that looks Hagn or Martini built? I presume a large action?
And what might the action caliber, bore size be? And the intended projectile?
thanks, Steve
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Martini built; was made as a display piece for Hastings to show off their long 20 gauge rifled slugs. I have lots of them, if you want to shoot a large rodent!
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The dakota had ejection issues with the case hitting as being ejected sticking in the loading slot. With a scope you had to turn the rifle on its side for the shell to fall out. (I believe some one here mentioned the same, in a book he wrote)
He said "Some" maybe just being kind, I believe they all had that issue, IMHO. I shot 3 different #10's one day ranging from a 30cal up to an Africa caliber, can't remember which, kicked like a mule, and you had to turn all of them on there side for the case to fall out of the gun. That was a long time ago shortly after Don introduced them so they may have been improved in the years since. Don was there at the time and I don't think he was pleased but I don't know if they ever fixed the problem.
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As a middle road cost wise (but in a different genre in a design sense) have you considered Baily Bradshaw's little action.
Actually since you mentioned you'd already been thinking Ruger then Mr Bradshaws action is worthy of consideration.
Cheers - Foster
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I am fortunate to own a Dakota Model 10 in 260 Remington. I purchased it direct from Sturgis in the late '90's. With a Leupold compact 3x9 scope it weighs slightly more than 6 lbs. It is a very accurate rifle with both Nosler 125 grain Ballistic tip bullets and 85 grain Sierras. The trigger pull is excellent ( I have seen some comments that the trigger pull can be a problem). Don Allen and/or someone in the shop told me that the through bolt tension could have some relationship to the trigger pull, but the trigger on my rifle leaves nothing to be desired.
My rifle has only an extractor.
I have nothing but good things to say about the Model 10. It is a very definite step (actually several step up) above the Ruger 1. It is much slimmer and much more refined. I believe the tangs are straighter and allow for a more open grip shape that I really like for both the way the gun carries and the way it handles when shooting. The action is built to much tighter tolerances than the Ruger - the lever and block move smoothly but with no play. The lever closes/cams over without the need for the locking lever of the Ruger. My model 10 260 is much more accurate than either of the Rugers that I have specific knowledge of.
I cannot provide any comparison to a Hagn as I have not seen or handled one. But I highly recommend the Dakota Model 10.
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