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Re: I read it in a magazine... L. Brown #185886 04/14/10 11:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 12,743 Lynchburg TN 2-piper Sidelock
2-piper Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 12,743 Lynchburg TN	Well Larry perhaps I canot lay claim to any "Original Concepts". I have however been reading & studying any & all things concerning ballistics etc for the past approximately 55 years. Over those decades I have definitely learned a lot about seperating the "Wheat from the Chaff". I will have to say in all honesty that one particular article on recoil by Gough Thomas was the biggest load of "Chaff" I have encountered in all those years. I am not currently at home but if you would like I can post a section from an Alliant loading guide from a few years back where they spent an entire page of it showing "Less Felt Recoil" from a "New Powder" they had introduced which fell in burning rate "Between" Red Dot & Green Dot. You know Larry, there's just not much of a gap there to fill is there. Quote: If a powder company is selling a variety of powders--which they all do--what "axe" are they grinding by promoting one as recoiling less than another? Like, Alliant is going to make more money getting folks to switch from GD to RD--or vice versa? Sorry, but that one does not pass the logic test. Quite obviously Larry you didn't research your answer any better than Thomas did his article for Alliant indeed did just exactly what you stated they would have "No Axe to Grind" by doing. They in fact promoted a new powder of theirs as producing less "Felt Recoil" than their very own old standby which had been a #1 seller for decades. Incidently Larry if you believe Alliants "Proof" they prove Thomas Wrong, but if you beleive Thomas' "Proof" he proved Alliant wrong for their "Proofs" are diametrically opposed. Jim; I understood how the blind test you referred to was conducted, however I have no idea at all how the one referenced by Thomas was done as he gave no details at all on it other than the "Supposed" results, for which I have only his & Larry's word, neither to my knowledge has ever stated who actually made them, except Larry thinks Thomas did them himself, which I am certain is incorrect. I was offered the opportunity to buy his book but after reading it I just saved my money for something else. Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra

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I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/14/10 02:01 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/14/10 02:18 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Dingelfutz	04/14/10 02:28 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/14/10 02:44 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	tudurgs	04/14/10 03:42 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/14/10 03:49 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/14/10 04:17 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/14/10 04:34 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/14/10 05:50 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/14/10 07:32 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/14/10 07:40 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/14/10 09:07 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/14/10 10:38 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/14/10 10:49 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/14/10 11:45 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/15/10 03:29 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	keith	04/15/10 07:29 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/15/10 12:06 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	keith	04/15/10 04:33 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/15/10 12:33 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/15/10 01:37 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/15/10 01:41 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/15/10 02:05 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	tudurgs	04/15/10 02:11 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/15/10 02:55 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	DAM16SXS	04/15/10 03:17 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/15/10 03:55 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/15/10 03:57 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/15/10 04:12 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/15/10 04:34 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/15/10 04:00 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/15/10 04:18 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/15/10 04:21 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	EDM	04/15/10 05:21 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Samuel_Hoggson	04/14/10 10:45 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Dingelfutz	04/14/10 02:21 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	David Furman	04/14/10 02:23 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	EDM	04/15/10 05:04 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Wonko the Sane	04/15/10 05:19 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	David Furman	04/15/10 05:23 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Dingelfutz	04/15/10 05:44 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/15/10 05:59 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/15/10 05:20 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	keith	04/16/10 04:13 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Samuel_Hoggson	04/15/10 06:11 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Drew Hause	04/15/10 07:00 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/15/10 07:21 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/15/10 08:06 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	David Furman	04/15/10 08:16 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/15/10 08:42 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/15/10 09:22 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	SDH-MT	04/15/10 09:38 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/15/10 09:51 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/15/10 10:15 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/16/10 12:06 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/16/10 04:56 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	DAM16SXS	04/16/10 09:52 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/16/10 12:51 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/16/10 12:54 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/16/10 01:32 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/16/10 02:38 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/16/10 03:49 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/16/10 04:44 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/16/10 06:24 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/16/10 05:22 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/16/10 06:24 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	David Furman	04/16/10 06:51 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/16/10 08:24 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/16/10 08:41 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/16/10 10:17 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/16/10 10:29 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/16/10 11:00 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/16/10 11:29 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	DAM16SXS	04/17/10 02:04 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/17/10 11:55 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	DAM16SXS	04/17/10 12:18 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	eightbore	04/17/10 12:28 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/17/10 01:55 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/17/10 02:08 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Daryl Hallquist	04/17/10 02:23 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	DAM16SXS	04/17/10 04:17 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/17/10 09:03 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/17/10 10:14 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Daryl Hallquist	04/17/10 10:15 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/18/10 12:11 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/18/10 12:53 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Stanton Hillis	04/18/10 02:39 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/18/10 04:42 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Stanton Hillis	04/18/10 11:13 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/18/10 01:47 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Stanton Hillis	04/18/10 06:13 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/18/10 08:44 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Stanton Hillis	04/18/10 09:19 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/18/10 10:01 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Stanton Hillis	04/18/10 10:16 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/18/10 10:21 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/18/10 11:29 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rabbit	04/18/10 11:54 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/19/10 12:02 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rabbit	04/19/10 12:29 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/19/10 12:24 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/19/10 01:50 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	J. Hall	04/19/10 03:06 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/19/10 04:13 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/19/10 06:22 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/19/10 10:51 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rwmckee	04/20/10 03:31 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/20/10 11:54 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/20/10 01:59 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/20/10 03:50 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/21/10 01:41 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/21/10 01:58 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rabbit	04/21/10 02:46 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/21/10 11:19 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/21/10 01:37 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/21/10 06:28 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/21/10 07:23 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rabbit	04/21/10 11:45 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/22/10 02:49 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	rabbit	04/22/10 03:35 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/22/10 12:33 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Pete	04/22/10 03:29 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/22/10 05:08 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Wonko the Sane	04/22/10 05:49 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/22/10 10:37 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/23/10 03:04 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/23/10 03:32 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/23/10 11:51 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/23/10 12:34 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/25/10 11:23 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/26/10 12:52 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	L. Brown	04/27/10 01:00 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/28/10 01:43 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/20/10 03:55 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	J. Hall	04/20/10 05:19 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Wonko the Sane	04/20/10 06:09 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/20/10 06:39 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Wonko the Sane	04/20/10 06:59 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	mike campbell	04/20/10 07:42 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Jim Legg	04/20/10 07:58 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Samuel_Hoggson	04/20/10 09:22 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Pete	04/21/10 01:22 AM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/17/10 01:56 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Chuck H	04/16/10 02:44 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	2-piper	04/17/10 08:34 PM
Re: I read it in a magazine...	Shotgunjones	04/20/10 08:07 PM

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