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Well,we know facial hair was popular in those days,so maybe the big drop was to "clear the beard"?
Er,take a look at some civil war photos
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loonngg face shapes.

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Annie Oakley had only a slight wisp of facial hair and shot very straight guns. I think her well publicized Lancaster dimensions were fitted for her in the 1890s.

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Annie's Ithaca 4E SBT was ordered with 1 1/2 inch drop at the face and 2 1/4 drop at the heel. LOP was 14 1/4 inches. Ordered 11/19/15 and shipped to her on 1/3/16. It had a straight grip and beaver tail FE. Silvers recoil pad. Diameter at the grip 4 3/4 inches to accommodate her hand. Weight was 7 3/4 pounds. Pitch ( called "stand out" on the order) 3 inches. Barrel was 32 inches full choke.
Here's Annie with her Ithaca.

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Dimensions for Annie's Ithaca SBT posted.

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Thanks, Walt. Has Annie's little Ithaca been located? It is interesting that by 1915, she started shooting guns with more drop than her earlier guns. It doesn't look like she gained much weight, causing her to need more room at the comb. Murphy

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Bill, Ithaca built her a double gun but no record of its serial number. In my nieve youth I was offered her gun but didn't have enough sence to grab it. I don't know where it is now.

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This is fun, guys. Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures for us.


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Since this is likely to come up again I made another doc on DamascusKnowledge and would very much like to add good illustrations or pictures, or correct any misconceptions on my part http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfg2hmx7_322dfv7jpff

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Found some 21st Century trapshooters at the 2008 Beijing Olympics ALL 'crawling the stock'

Gold Medalist SPC Glenn Eller









and Kimberly Rhode Silver Medalist Skeet



Things appear to have changed little in 100 years smile


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Kim Rhode is the only shooter pictured who seems to have a separation from the nose to the thumb of more than a fraction of an inch. She is not crawling the stock, seems to be far back on the comb compared to most International Skeet shooters. With her high arm position and apparently too long stock, I find her hard to watch. However, it seems to work for her in both games.

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