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Yes, Geno, we can all clearly see where it says Darne on that set of barrels.

That fact aside, why does the crack seem to be indented in your photo? A crack resulting from pressure/use would tend to be wider at the opening outside the chamber, not indented, as this one clearly is. That would indicate external trauma from the outside of the gun. Again, you have posted evidence of nothing.

They built close to a million of these guns, and we have ONE guy who has a complaint, who posts hand drawn illustrations of a gun, he admits, was well out of proof, (.020 wall thickness, at the junction of monoblock and barrels) and a photo of a gun of some sort that has what is clearly damage caused by external forces, to the outside of the barrel.

You have to come up with some legitimate evidence, Geno, before you have an argument. You haven't done that, yet.





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Originally Posted By: King Brown
There's enough stupidity to go around without slinging it here. I'm tired of it.


It does get old...

Geno has more than enough credibility on this board that I'd never question him.

Anyone can look at a Darne and see it's mouse trap that never was.

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One million produced-name another double with that kind of credibility.

Here's a hint-you will have a tough time doing it. One other point occurs to me-what difference does it make who someone with zero credibility gives unquestioning credibility to?

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I don't think any firearm be it a rifle, a handgun or a shotgun is used as extensively as a trap gun, which has to perform over thousands upon thousands of rounds.
Last I heard out of the 15 medals awarded at the previous Olympics for trap shooting 11 of the shooters used a Perazzi.

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A guy at my gun club had a Perazzi SxS it was owned by more than one member...rumor is it was nothing but trouble ?

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Wow, didn't this become an unseemly brawl.

For what it's worth, Greener Empires, with their crossbolt and long, deep action bar, are sught for conversions to double rifles. Don't know if that makes them best r strongest (for what?). I wonder if there's ever been a falling block double shotgun made?; such a thin would have to be pretty tough; I klnow I've seen a falling block single used for pressure testing catridges - the barrel shank was about three inches thick...
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Good on you, Mate- for your analysis of the "pub crawl brawl" we both have sensed here- credability much be crudability to some, one man's Foster Lager is another man's Flying Philadelphia Fig- what difference does it make, excepting maybe if Bill Gates was a gun enthusiast, how many of use could own and shoot them all long enough to really know-most durable guns will be (hopefully) passed on to another generation- Being a devout pre-64 Winchester man, I recall that Parker Ackley once rebarreled a 12 gauge Model 1897 pump into 30-06 and it functioned without a flaw afterwards- Edwin Puglsey took two Model 21 20 gauges and had them rebarreled in the custom shop in .405 cal. express rifles (believe one is in the Cody Museum now) and I have a Model 12 Pigeon Grade Trap gun made in 1948 (old milled rib, 30" Imp. Mod. choke) that was purchased new in that year- and shot continously from 1948 until 1975 by a ATA class A shooter averaghing over 250,000 registered targets (16, doubles and handicap) plus all the practice rounds- still has original firing pin, works like it was new-RWTF


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In the real game gun weights - and this excludes the M21, IMO, I'll opt for the Linder Dalys. They are trim and light, yet have the mechanical advantage of a long water table (a la M21, only lots less metal where it doesn't matter for strength). And they were beautifully made to boot...wish I had one.

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The only reason Perazzi is used in the Olympics is due to pressure put on the Olympic teams by certain Italian Jews who run the international canned good concern west of the Gaza strip who act as front for the KGB. It has nothing to do with quality.

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Well, a whole lot of trap shooters use them, regardless if they're getting endorsements or not, both amatuer and professional along with the Krieghoff. Subjecting a shotgun to Argentina type dove shooting every weekend, yep the proof is in the puddin, those two are the strongest.

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