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Ken,
This Charles Daly caught my eye because of the Jones underlever which I haven't actually seen very many of. It had several generations of brown crud covering everything. About all I've done thus far is use some Breakfree and Hoppes on the bbls which were a milk chocolate brown. One hammer is a mismatched replacement. One fellow calls the stock finish ebonized. I think it may also benefit from a gentle cleaning with some Murphys oil soap.The forend is attached by keyed wedge but when the wedge is removed the forened remains hinged to the frame. It has a solid steel buttplate.
The only markings other than the top rib engraving is the serial number of 1092; an "AR" (I initially thought it was "AH")on the frame in the slot between the watertables; and "RS" on the left bbl next to the bottom rib. Otherwise this gun has no other bbl markings that I can find.
(I did find 3 or 4 varied Linder marked guns with the same "RS" in the same location on the internet. At least 2 were hammerless boxlocks and one seems to have the same 1092 SN unless the "1" is something else.)
I will attempt to add some photos. Your observations are invited. I am most interested in who made the gun and circa date of manufacture. I assume that "RS may be the initials of the barrel striker.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/gunner000_photos/C%20Daly%20jones%20underlever/CD1092001.jpg
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http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/gunner000_photos/C%20Daly%20jones%20underlever/CD1092008.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/...CD1092009-1.jpg
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Erick,

That is an interesting Daly, but I don't know who made it. I have some thoughts, but I do not know defnitively.

As you mention the "R.S." initials just ahead of the barrel flats are common on Lindner-made Dalys. These are thought to be the barrel man's initials. There are dozens of Dalys noted with the mark in the database.

The vintage of this hammergun is in line with the last one - circa - 1875. The serial number of gun (#1092) is interesting for two reasons. First is that this particular sequence falls immediately in front of the Lindner-marked Dalys (unlike the first Daly you provided pictures for.) The presence (and shape)of the dollshead extension, carvin of the fences, and position of the pins in the action are also (mostly) in line with early-made Lindner-marked guns. I think that provides a clue to the maker. (My guess, Heinrich's father, Georg.)

The seond interesting item is that the serial number is a duplicate for a Lindner-marked hammerless Jakob gun made thrity years later. The boxlock was on the Cabelas website last year. The Daly serial number sequence does "start over" during the 1892 timeframe. This is one of many things that makes serial nunbering sequence on Dalys so confusing. We know a lot more than we used to but there is no magic Rosetta Stone yet.

Ken

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Ken, Thank-you again for your insight and information. I now recall reading something about H Linder's father I think. Maybe it was on this site when I searched older posts but I can't remember. I never put that piece together though. Thank-you for your opinion.
A little more about the gun- The bbls are 30 3/16". LOP is 13 15/16". The gun weighs 9# 2 1/4 oz. It is a 10 ga.

Regarding gun 16004 and your inquiry as to the weight, it weighs 7# 10 oz., heavier than I thought. The bbls are 26" plus maybe a 32nd". The balance point is about 3/8" behind the hinge.
Best Regards, Erick


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