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Exact same story I have witnessed, more than once. There is a single trigger 16 floating around that has never worked correctly, save curing people in a small circle of wanting anything to do with CSMC.

The prices asked on used guns in their advertising should be a big hint.

Best,
Ted

My story, I ordered a 21 with a set of 20 and 28 gauge barrels. Both 30". I could not hit the side of a barn with the 20 gauge barrels. I have heard they do not do a good job of regulating

I was recently “BONED” by the undesirables in Connecticut after a decade of purchases totalling well over six figures.
A quick 3k worth of immediate ill gotten gain was worth more to these geniuses than a long commercial relationship plus any future purchases.
Funny how “Like New”, “Original” and “Virtually Unfired” means different things to different people.

To the OP,
Buy Vintage from a reputable dealer or private party. Just my .02.

I have bought a few guns from them over the years now I’ve been very happy treating me very well. I know they handle a lot of guns. I’m not sticking up for them, but there are two sides every story I was at the southern side-by-side and bought another gun from them and and about Model 21 single trigger and regulation. The guy that won most of the tournament was using one of their guns I bought a gun for them last year for $6000. I couldn’t shoot it. I put it in an auction a pretty big one. And I netted $11,600 so I’m pretty happy and I bought from them at Southern. I was walking around with it other dealers wanted to buy it from me, but I didn’t wanna sell it. I had come into some money lately and I’ve been buying guns from them and others and another dealer and I am doing pretty well

Future's so bright, you gotta wear shades. Was Chris Farley your mentor? Wow...
JR

I bought a 1937 vintage Modrl 21 SxS 12 ga with double triggers and splinter fore end. It had new wood on it that looked factory new. I also had a CSMC over/under 20 ga model 21 in inventory at the time. The wood looked identical on both guns. Same color, same finish. They won't admit it but I believe they are making new wood using factory patterns and restocking vintage guns. They have all the Winchester tooling and patterns to do it.

Well, certainly they are "making" new wood using factory patterns and restocking vintage guns. You stated that your 1937 gun had new wood on it. So what else is new? What exactly is your point? Please clarify.

I shoot a CSMC Model 21 .22 rifle and it seems to work just fine. If it ever breaks down, at this price, I expect Tony will take care of me. In my opinion, and in my experience, he will do what is right.

Tony Galazan used to come to the National Gun Day Gun Show in Louisville 25 years or so, ago, when he first took over the Model 21 business. I could tell by his older 21s that he was buying up all the 21s he could, rebuilding them, maybe putting new wood on them and selling them for a profit. Nothing wrong or illegal about that. He never denied it. He is the authorized dealer now. Jaqua's just had a 12 gauge Model 21, with the old style wood (buttstock) on it, last fall/winter with double triggers that they said was rebuilt by Galazan. Someone bought it a couple months ago.

Not trying to derail this thread ?

I agree this gun is in wonderful original condition but what do you have to smoke to profess this unfired? Trigger wear, cartridge circles (specifically primer rings ) on the standing breech.
Short of being sealed in an original box it’s a bold claim to begin with but photos sure don’t back it up in my opinion.




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