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Could those of you who hunt with 200 series guns of this era please tell me what you are buying off the shelf or reloading with due regard for service pressure. Larry Brown or Raimey E. must have told me a bit about this at least five times and it doesn't sink in. I'd like to hunt preserve pheasant with my 200e (despite the tight chokes) and am not certain what's what pressure-wise. I have assumed that some caution is in order and have only loaded (and shot) light 1oz. skeet loads with spreaders at CIP service pressures (under 9000psi). The gun in question has Crown over N for nitro proof, the "maul" in the oval, and other crowned upper case letters which I assume are provisional proofs. I have checked Dr. Hause's CIP synopsis on 16ga.com, googled service pressure for German Nito Proof and remain paralytically confused! Thanks for all guidance in advance.
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Merkel has and does make robust guns and quite frankly I would not be concerned with shooting any non-steel load of the appropriate length that meets SAAMI or CIP standards.
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Hello Lapin,
I agree with TB as to the solidity of the gun in question. I'd go with CIPs and
never look back.
JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."ť Charles Darwin
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Rabbit - I have an early 60s 203 12 bore that was originally sold through a London shop and bears London proof marks of 31/4 tons. I too struggled through various posts discussing conversions between proof systems and the difference between service and proof pressures. I am likely being over-conservative, but I also concluded that 10,000 psi was an appropriate limit and decided not to exceed 11/8 oz, 31/4 DRE. My gun weighs 6.75lbs so shooting loads in excess of that might get a bit uncomfortable in any event.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Chambers are 2.75 so I'm assuming that any commercial #6 or 5 1.125oz load would be fine. As the gun weighs 6.8lb it precisely fits the "rule of 96" schema for gun wgt. for ounce and an eighth charge. I've had good luck with 1 oz of 6s on crossing pheasant altho the birds that get straight up at my feet always leave me looking for safeties and triggers and then probably shooting under while looking at tailfeathers. Sort of rooster fever. Thanks for the seat-of-pants advice TB, JCJ and Doverham.
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Bro Conejo: Don't worry - be happy - any load your shoulder can take the gun can handle 
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As you may have seen, B&P has a special going on their High Pheasant load, which fall well within these load parameters. $70/case B&P High Pheasant
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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