Saw a nice .410 double yesterday-out of the way gunshop. I know the owner- he had a nice Phila Fox A 12 a few years ago-It is a Savage/Stevens 311- but made under contract for the Sears Roebuck catalog (back when Sears and other sold shotgun via mail-order) to it is marked JC Higgins on the receiver sides-looks like it was never fired- not a mar on the full stock with black plastic BP-ditto forearm- mint blue and bores- 28" I am guessing Full and Full- DT Extractors and 3". It is for sale at his price (firm on that) at $550- got home, only check I could run were ads in GUN DIGEST- the two numbnutz Dick and Craig that are all over that publication like flies on a shitwagon in July had a few- all into 4 figures. I am strictly a 12 gauge gunner-never owned or shot a .410 (or 28 gauge)but I can see the appeal-until I priced the shells- $17.50 box of 25 target loads- I can buy 4 boxes of Federal promo loads in either 7 & 1/2" or 8" from GM for $16.00 so guess I'll stay with my 12 bores-but just to learn something, anyone care to venture a guess- Owner said that Stevens put better wood and finish on their Sears contracted shotguns- this was real walnut- not some crappy assed stained birch- and by the way- he also ID'd the bl;ack plastic BP I have in my "cigar box" of strays-as going on a plastic-aka-tenite Stevens buttstock-RWTF

Run, Mr Hemingway would not be proud.

Those .410s that Wildwood has have been advertised a L O N G time. $550 is a heck of a lot closer to a real price than anything Dick or Craig have as a price on those guns. My opinion, anyway. You really want a laugh, check out what they think an Iver Johnson "Skeeter" in 28 gauge is worth, in the same issue.

Agree totally on little gun ammunition pricing-but, some sucker is born every minute, and even Wal Mart knows, and takes advantage of, that fact.

Best,
Ted

Say Tim- my Sandy and Dusky amigo(?) I am a big fan of both the lates Ernest Hemingway and Nash Buckingham-think I see the connection now- Ernest wrote while in Cuba at his Finca Viga estate one of his sons was a masterful shot with a .410 double-have to look that up- Nash B., on the other hand, wanted the .410 banned from all hunting-upland and waterfowling- as he felt on game birds it was a crippler-except in the hands of a very few expert shots-the shotgun was indeed petite- and the twin barrels and the rib gave a fair sight plane-but for a small gauge gun, I'll use the M12 20 ga. 28" mod. my Grandfather gave me in the 1950's for a birthday present-nothing smaller- I appreciate your input-RWTF

Thanks Ted- agree 200%- seems like these two "Gold-dust Twins" of the GL ads sure have a boat load of guns for sale-they listed a 1932 M54 in .270 as a Super Grade at $2750 or something ridiculous- the SuperGrade came out in late 1935 as the M54 was phased out for the improved M70-when I asked him for the serial number so I could look it up in Rule's book- he said he'd have to call me back- ditto with my ? about removing the barrel/receiver assembly from the stock- to verify the SUPER stamped on the 6 o'clock position (along with cal. and year) on All SuperGrades-you have the correct windage Ted- Caveat Empetor!! RWTF

To my knowledge Stevens never made a 311 .410 with 28" barrels; bet they're 26". Checkered wood or plain? $550 is not a bad price, especially for one with real walnut; just depends if you want one or not. Mine is a 5100 with checkered walnut; doesn't get shot much but is a fun little gun.

This is why I made the statement about the .410 in the post about the Fox rib (matting)that someone was asking about. The .410 is not at all practical unless you have access to the empty hulls and a reloader that is set up for it. Otherwise, it makes a nice collector's gun........ I believe many of us agreed on here a few years ago (and it became pretty standard) that any .410 SXS (even down to a 311) in nice shape is worth at least $500.00. So, I would say that that is pretty much the rule of thumb on this board. Maybe a little more by now. Good luck.

I think I have to agree with Jimmy. Pretty much any .410 SxS in good shape seems to be worth at least $500. I saw one 2 weeks ago- BOITO (sp?)Made in spain, sold by K-mart back in the 70's. It was in good shape, but everything I've ever read about those guns has been bad. Poor steel quality, internal parts break easily, impossible to fix etc.etc. I passed on the gun at $450 (thought the guy was smoking the good stuff) but 2 guys about knocked me over trying to get to it. One ole' boy damn near broke his wrist getting his money out. I would think that a Stevens in good shape should bring what your guy is asking. Good luck.

Saw one on GB yesterday for $1200.00. Yikes!

i'm betting you didn't actually see it sell for that. i checked the closed items and there were only 2 that even had bids. one was a 5100 with a custom stock that got bid up to $625 (and did actually sell). the other was a 311 that got bid up to $325 and didn't meet reserve. were several others started in the $485-$850 that were listed over and over and over with no bids. nobody seems to be fighting over those.

roger

I sold my Stevens 311A .410 a few months ago for $425 It was not checkered and finish was probably 75 to 80 percent. I priced it at $500 but couldn't get an offer over $425.

NONE of those basic 311 variants or other Savage/Stevens (Sears, Montgomery Ward,....) are worth > $400. I would not pay more than $350 for any gauge even if the thing had: original box, papers and packing materials.
When I can pick up Manufrance #208 (a better gun in every way) in VG shape for about $600 why would I want one of Savage/Stevens tools. I'm not that.......

Fin- and others- thanks for the info- I am not gonna buy it, even if it were at $250-just curious. I think you are right about the barrels being 26"_ I picked it up a few times, but didn't measure the barrels- Owner said it's $550 in his shop to anyone, or it stays on the rack. Walnut stocks-not checkered, black buttplate, I would rate wood and blue as 99%- both bores minty- he said it has 3" and in his opinion, the Stevens made for the Sears J.C. Higgins trade name were better fitted and finished- when did Sears stop selling shotguns and rifles in their catalogs? My guess is 1968 era-anyone know- and if anyone wants to contact Brad about this shotgun, let me know and I'll send along his phone number- did the same thing a few weeks ago for a gent on this BBS in PA-re: some M42's I saw in another gun shop. I like they way small gauges look and handle-but I'll stay with my 12's!!