A "buy now for $1,889.00" for a .410 Western Arms/Long range(Ithaca) double?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=57060421 Are they that rare?
Yes he is, how about that Parker G damascus on Auction Arms for buy it now- 4500.00
Hard to find..yes. i have one in 20, great quail gun.. but 1889.00? whats he smoking!
If one opens a copy of "Gunlist" magazine, one will find ads from two guys named "Dick and Craig" that have low end .410s such as this, (and, other guns) for ungodly amounts of money. They buy a good percentage of the ads in that magazine every month and the prices are ALWAYS 30-150% more than similar items advertised in the same issue.
The guns are usually listed for months on end. But, a civilian off the street might actually believe that they are worth that much with a casual reading.
Best,
Ted
P.T. Barnum was right...a sucker born every minute. Sadly, there are those out there who have no compunction about taking the naive.
Jim
He must be at least somwhat wacky. Why list a gun on an auction site with a "buy now" price the same as the "minimum bid" price? Looking at his history he has a fairly large number of negative ratings. JL
I guess like just about any other hobby this one attracts its share of loonies. There is a guy on one of the other auction sites who goes by the name of Sly who has had several IMO marginal at best overpriced doubles up for "auction" there for years the last time I looked.
Jim
This is really a great post and very helpful for a NewB like me to the Double-Gun world.
I've been looking for a decent little SxS and I've seen some of these auctions and really didn't know if the gun was worth this much or something was trying to "screw" a buyer.
I have so many questions about the different Fox, LC Smith and Ithaca guns that it's hard to decipher over what is real and what is a real ripoff.
I also wonder with the Uggies, Merkels, Grullas and AyAs come in related to prior mentioned.
Definitely a lot to learn.
I used to be involved in the antique photo business, daguerreotypes, ambrotypes, etc. For me, it was just a way to earn a few dollars for my other photographic interests.
I got to be friends with one of the biggest dealers around. His prices were well beyond unreasonable. We are talking thousands of dollars for images that others would have sold for $100 or $200.
I asked him one time, why he did that. He responded, "Because eventually some one will pay my price. I am happy to make a few sales that net me large profits." The thing is, he had regular customers who would gladly pay his prices without question. Yet these same customers would haggle with other dealers over $5. Go figure.
Pete
C'mon guys that 410 ithaca is a beautiful gun, you must admire that grade three wood and that perfectly executed checkering.
Is that forend legit? Looks really short, even for a .410.
Fin: looks like the forend of the Western Arms Long Range that I bought in Lawrence about 10 yrs ago for $300 and sold for $600 :rolleyes: .
I think this guy has NO idea what he has in his hands, but why not list high and see what happens?
He might meet up with someone with more money than sense.
My Thought, anyway.
Regards
GKT
Saw the like sell at Amskeag for the same money with less condition. 410's are a trip on there own.
Stallones, I drove to Maine to see that Damascus Parker that had an opening bid price of $4500. The owner of the shop was not in but I discussed it with his son who said the bids had gone to "a little over $10k so far" (the kid didn't know what he was talking about anyhow) but I asked to see it. The gun is very nice and almost original with the exception that I beleive the buttstock had been replaced at some point as it lacked the "spurred" buttplate but could have been done by Parker Bros., it was that early and that quality as well. I didn't make an offer because the shop owner was not available.
Now, a little more than a month later and after the gun has been up for auction for some monthe with not a single bite, I call and get the owner and suggest that because the buttstock appears to have been replaced I would like to make an offer of something less than his minimum. His reply (before I could even get out the price I would offer) was "I won't even consider an offer of less" at which he ended the call.
Yes, that Parker is overpriced but someone may pay his price sooner or later... and that is why prices continue to escalate... because "a fool and his money are soon parted"... or maybe I'm the fool for not paying it...
Stallones, I drove to Maine to see that Damascus Parker that had an opening bid price of $4500. The owner of the shop was not in but I discussed it with his son who said the bids had gone to "a little over $10k so far" (the kid didn't know what he was talking about anyhow) but I asked to see it. The gun is very nice and almost original with the exception that I beleive the buttstock had been replaced at some point as it lacked the "spurred" buttplate but could have been done by Parker Bros., it was that early and that quality as well. I didn't make an offer because the shop owner was not available.
Now, a little more than a month later and after the gun has been up for auction for some monthe with not a single bite, I call and get the owner and suggest that because the buttstock appears to have been replaced I would like to make an offer of something less than his minimum. His reply (before I could even get out the price I would offer) was "I won't even consider an offer of less" at which he ended the call.
Yes, that Parker is overpriced but someone may pay his price sooner or later... and that is why prices continue to escalate... because "a fool and his money are soon parted"... or maybe I'm the fool for not paying it...